I generally stay away from any product that is rough because birds have sensitive feet, but I did want one thing in the cage that they can chose to be on that would help with their little toenails, and this item fits the bill. It is large enough for both of my Fischer Lovebirds, Mariposa and Papillon, to get on and swing together, and they often do, but small enough that just one bird is happy on it as well. I have 2 other swings in the cage besides this one and both of the birds by far prefer this swing. I also like that the swing is not all one size, but varied, which is better for their feet. All in all, I'm very happy with this swing, the birds love it, it is safe, and therefore I am giving it a 5 star review. Highly recommended. I wanted to include here a recipe for a fresh diet that a breeder I highly respect gave me (Thank you Angela) just to offer some advice to keep our pet birds healthier - it is not at all related this the product I have reviewed here but it could very well give you some great ideas to get fresh fruits and vegetables into your bird. All domestic birds, especially parrots, lovebirds, parrotlets, parakeets, canaries, finches, conures, etc, should have fresh fruit and vegetables and they can present a challenge to get them to eat them. Gives this recipe a try Here's a recipe that I make and it took some time for them to get used to it, but now my lovebirds and my parrotlets both eat this when provided. I give it in the morning and remove uneaten food in the evening. 1 apple cored and chopped 1/2 Cup chopped raw broccoli 1 Chopped bell pepper seed included 2 shredded carrots 1/2 Cup chopped greens (bok choy, mustard greens, kale and/or chard) 1/4 Cup frozen corn (can be eliminated if you put slices of raw corn on the cob in treat holders/clips in your cage - all my birds LOVE it and I have had 100% success getting them to eat this) 1/4 Cup frozen peas 1/2 Cup cooked rice (brown or GABA brown rice) 1/2 Cup cooked dried beans (they will need to be soaked overnight for 8 hours) A handful of blueberries, chopped cherries and chopped seedless grapes Mix all ingredients together in a large bowl. Place ingredients in an ice cube tray and freeze. Remove frozen cubes and place in plastic bags to store in freezer. Then you can take out the perfect portion on a daily basis . They say 1 cube per bird but you may find that 1 cube will work well for a pair of birds of if smaller birds, even more. Instead of an ice cube tray I use slider freezer bags and press them flat after I fill them with enough of the mixture and this way I can easily break off appropriate sized pieces. This recipe is variable and you can switch out or add/delete ingredients that you have on hand or what you know your birds already like. This recipe is in ADDITION to their regular diet of pellets and seeds and not a substitute.